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  • Nix Nada 2013-01-11 06:16
    a 'Sign Out' button to sign in is no worse than a Start button to shut down. What I'm saying is, this is not a frist for Microsoft.
  • Rnd( 2013-01-11 06:16
    6,5GB/s is that a lot? Hmm under 100Gbs, not for consumers. And nice servers they have too.
  • TheSHEEEP 2013-01-11 06:25
    Nix Nada:
    a 'Sign Out' button to sign in is no worse than a Start button to shut down. What I'm saying is, this is not a frist for Microsoft.

    QFT!
  • Sean 2013-01-11 06:59
    That XP look hooky!
  • Josh 2013-01-11 07:34
    The Mint one isn't a bug. It means the account connected to that goal lost that amount of money, either through investment losses or taking money out of it.
  • Rick 2013-01-11 07:48
    TRWTF is allowing a radio shack anywhere near computers. They tried that in the early 1980s and does anyone remember how that worked out? For one thing, the world's worst word processing software ever!! As you began typing on page 2, page 1 was automatically saved to a separate file. As you began page 6, page 5 automatically overwrote the file for page 1. That's right! A silently imposed limit of 4 pages. Works great when you demo it in the store.

    (Anyone want to guess what happens when you insert text on page one, and the last sentence gets pushed down to page 2? Keep in mind we're working with earthworm-slow 8-inch floppies here.)

    Back then there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!" Like General Electric. A computer and a refrigerator look almost identical, so let's get in the business! They thought they'd just crank out a few mainframes with sturdy reinforcing brackets and all. The software... well... subroutines could only have names up to 6 characters long, and company policy required the magic letters "GE" at the beginning of everything just so you wouldn't forget their greatness, so you'd be writing code where GELOAD calls GEFIND then GEOPEN and if there was any error you call GEBORT (abort) to get yourself a handy dandy core dump.

    Yes. Computers are easy. Anybody can make them.
  • LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet 2013-01-11 08:00
    Josh:
    The Mint one isn't a bug. It means the account connected to that goal lost that amount of money, either through investment losses or taking money out of it.


    Yes, but he's still 'on track' for meeting his goal. But I guess whether or not that's a WTF depends on how the regular payments have been keeping up and how much time is left to catch up again.
  • Ken 2013-01-11 08:24
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?
  • Gramie 2013-01-11 09:11
    Have you forgotten who came before the current president? His own party seems to have.
  • Nagesh 2013-01-11 09:13
    Why would anyone be interested in JRebel? Eclipse can do hotswapping in Java and JBuilder was able to do it a decade ago.
  • LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet 2013-01-11 09:22
    Nagesh:
    Why would anyone be interested in JRebel? Eclipse can do hotswapping in Java and JBuilder was able to do it a decade ago.

    Eclipse's hotswapping capabilities are poor. More often than not, you'll have to restart the server anyway if you make a change. I presume a commercial tool specialized in doing that could do a much better job. I haven't used it myself though.
  • Bacon Bits 2013-01-11 09:23
    Actually the Microsoft Learning message makes complete sense to me, especially if you've ever signed in to any MS site. The top right button reads "sign in" when no user is signed in, and "sign out" when you're currently signed in. You know, exactly like the "Sign On"/"Sign Off" link in the top right of this very site.

    The user is obviously currently signed in with a Microsoft account that is not for a certified professional. It could have been made more clear by saying "You will need to sign out and sign in with your certified professional Microsoft account or create a new certified professional Microsoft account", but it's honestly not that bad.
  • Oracle Admin 2013-01-11 09:27
    LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet:
    Nagesh:
    Why would anyone be interested in JRebel? Eclipse can do hotswapping in Java and JBuilder was able to do it a decade ago.

    Eclipse's hotswapping capabilities are poor. More often than not, you'll have to restart the server anyway if you make a change. I presume a commercial tool specialized in doing that could do a much better job. I haven't used it myself though.

    Will it work with Weblogic? Somebody try it and let me know.

    Actually, somebody try it and take some screenshots so it can be on next week's Error'd.
  • dkf 2013-01-11 09:50
    LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet:
    I presume a commercial tool specialized in doing that could do a much better job.
    Cute! An idealist!
  • operagost 2013-01-11 09:50
    Rick:
    TRWTF is allowing a radio shack anywhere near computers. They tried that in the early 1980s and does anyone remember how that worked out? For one thing, the world's worst word processing software ever!! As you began typing on page 2, page 1 was automatically saved to a separate file. As you began page 6, page 5 automatically overwrote the file for page 1. That's right! A silently imposed limit of 4 pages. Works great when you demo it in the store.


    That's horrible, but has little to do with the TRS-80 hardware itself, which was pretty good stuff. There are still a lot of fans of the Tandy 100 portable, which was unique.
  • Mr Minitel 2013-01-11 10:00
    Rick:
    TRWTF is allowing a radio shack anywhere near computers. They tried that in the early 1980s and does anyone remember how that worked out? For one thing, the world's worst word processing software ever!! As you began typing on page 2, page 1 was automatically saved to a separate file. As you began page 6, page 5 automatically overwrote the file for page 1. That's right! A silently imposed limit of 4 pages. Works great when you demo it in the store.

    (Anyone want to guess what happens when you insert text on page one, and the last sentence gets pushed down to page 2? Keep in mind we're working with earthworm-slow 8-inch floppies here.)

    Back then there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!" Like General Electric. A computer and a refrigerator look almost identical, so let's get in the business! They thought they'd just crank out a few mainframes with sturdy reinforcing brackets and all. The software... well... subroutines could only have names up to 6 characters long, and company policy required the magic letters "GE" at the beginning of everything just so you wouldn't forget their greatness, so you'd be writing code where GELOAD calls GEFIND then GEOPEN and if there was any error you call GEBORT (abort) to get yourself a handy dandy core dump.

    Yes. Computers are easy. Anybody can make them.


    Tandy is dandy, but Commodore j'adore
  • Rick 2013-01-11 10:00
    operagost:
    Rick:
    TRWTF is allowing a radio shack anywhere near computers. They tried that in the early 1980s and does anyone remember how that worked out? For one thing, the world's worst word processing software ever!! As you began typing on page 2, page 1 was automatically saved to a separate file. As you began page 6, page 5 automatically overwrote the file for page 1. That's right! A silently imposed limit of 4 pages. Works great when you demo it in the store.


    That's horrible, but has little to do with the TRS-80 hardware itself, which was pretty good stuff. There are still a lot of fans of the Tandy 100 portable, which was unique.
    So you're claiming the hardware got the nickname "Trash-80" due to the software alone?

    And my point was kinda that selling computers is not just selling hardware (though a lot of companies thought so, early on, including the radio store). It needs at least a bare minimum of non-sucky software so you can bootstrap it up to the point where you can install the rest of your stuff.
  • Anon 2013-01-11 10:01
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?


    Still sore huh?
  • operagost 2013-01-11 10:03
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?


    Still sore huh?

    We're all hurting.
  • Ken 2013-01-11 10:03
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.
  • Lenny 2013-01-11 10:05
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.
  • RakerF1 2013-01-11 10:13
    Lenny:
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.


    Um... that's the same guy...
  • QJo 2013-01-11 10:17
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.


    Nothing wrong with the economy. I'm doing just fine, thanks.
  • RFmich 2013-01-11 10:57
    I read that - as negative.. you're much worse off than you thought. Over $2,000 in the red.
  • Ozz 2013-01-11 11:16
    RakerF1:
    Lenny:
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.


    Um... that's the same guy...
    WOOSH!
  • Anon 2013-01-11 11:41
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.


    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked? Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.

    Want some cheese with your whine?
  • Pat 2013-01-11 11:42
    Lenny:
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.
    Maybe -- what if -- oh, it is too horrendous to even think -- but what if the global economy is so diverse and complicated that nobody could ever be smart enough to control it all?

    I guess we'd just to have to descend into anarchy and chaos. It would be hopeless.

    Lucky thing the people who happen to be very good at spinning stories to win elections are exactly the same people who happen to be very good at understanding complicated math functions with billions of variables (people).
  • SirMarksalot 2013-01-11 11:45
    Bacon Bits:
    Actually the Microsoft Learning message makes complete sense to me, especially if you've ever signed in to any MS site. The top right button reads "sign in" when no user is signed in, and "sign out" when you're currently signed in. You know, exactly like the "Sign On"/"Sign Off" link in the top right of this very site.

    The user is obviously currently signed in with a Microsoft account that is not for a certified professional. It could have been made more clear by saying "You will need to sign out and sign in with your certified professional Microsoft account or create a new certified professional Microsoft account", but it's honestly not that bad.


    Having worked with Live ID, I'm not at all surprised to see a bug like this. Live is responsible for drawing its own sign-in/sign-out controls, but at the same time won't give you a straight answer as to whether the user is signed in or not. You have to have your own logic to determine the user's signed-in state, and then you tell Live to give you the "sign in" link. Except that the "sign in" link is a "sign out" link if there's a user logged in.

    So your internal logic tells you that the user is signed out (maybe because they don't have an entry in your service) so you display your "sign in" message, but Live knows there's a user signed in, so it displays a "sign out" link, and you end up with the situation here. Usually I see it the other way around, though ("You are signed in as Get Your Gamercard").
  • chubertdev 2013-01-11 12:04
    Rick:
    The software... well... subroutines could only have names up to 6 characters long, and company policy required the magic letters "GE" at the beginning of everything just so you wouldn't forget their greatness, so you'd be writing code where GELOAD calls GEFIND then GEOPEN and if there was any error you call GEBORT (abort) to get yourself a handy dandy core dump.


    This site should automatically prepend "In my own experience, " to every comment submitted.
  • Ken B 2013-01-11 12:09
    The Staples one says that it's "67¢ per roll". So the problem isn't the price, it's that it doesn't show the proper 15-billion pack of paper towels.

    The Mass Effect download is just missing the rest of the text after the ellipsis, which actually says "1 second remaining until we can estimate the amount of time remaining".

    As for the Microsoft one, I'd like to point out that their DreamSpark site always has a "sign in" link, even when you're signed in. (And there's no indication whether you are signed in or not. Unless, that is, you try to download something that requires you to be logged in and you aren't.)
  • herby 2013-01-11 12:17
    Mileages to Radio Shack? I really don't know, but I've been to every one shown on that map. Some are better than others as far as "knowledge".

    As for computers, I think that one of the better ones was the Color Computer. Did just enough to get what small jobs done. If you wanted to really fly, load OS-9 on it, and multitask to your hearts content. Way before PC's had anything like it (1982 or so).
  • Mr.Bob 2013-01-11 12:59
    Radio Shack: You've Got Questions, We've Got Cell Phones!
  • Geoff 2013-01-11 13:32
    Ken:

    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked? Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.


    Head you said negotiate I would have let you off but there is not any "good faith" on the other side at all. The President nor the democratic caucus has any intention of doing any sort of entitlement reform, and neither side has any real interest in addressing defense spending.

    The GOP says they won't do any revenue but they just passed legislation that actually does quite a bit of it; because they were forced, to save the sacred cow that is the DOD.

    Both sides are entirely recalcitrant so I don't fault either for resorting to extortion when the option presents itself. Now the GOP has the debt ceiling so its the DNCs turn to bleed.

    This is the way our politics works now get over it and get used to it.

  • Anachronda 2013-01-11 14:02
    Rick:
    (Anyone want to guess what happens when you insert text on page one, and the last sentence gets pushed down to page 2? Keep in mind we're working with earthworm-slow 8-inch floppies here.)


    Musta been one of them fancy Model 2s or Model 16s.
  • Anachronda 2013-01-11 14:04
    Lenny:
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.


    (looks at calendar. counts on fingers.)

    *blink* *blink*
  • Paula 2013-01-11 14:05
    Stop the political shit and focus on something we can all agree on: Irish Girl.

    Brillant!
  • Coyne 2013-01-11 14:18
    Did they introduce some type of new math this week? I must have missed that.

    Which isn't really such a bit deal since it's clear that those who are using it, clearly don't know how.
  • Ben Jammin 2013-01-11 14:41
    Lenny:
    Sure the economy is in the tank, but that's entirely the fault of the guy we elected four years ago, not the current guy.

    I'm unfortunately not surprised as to how many comments seem to have missed the point/joke in yours.
  • PiisAWheeL 2013-01-11 14:51
    Sorry Dennis, Not a Wtf. Its what happens when you install xp from a precracked iso from tpb. Not microsoft's fault (We have enough to work with on their legit wtfs).
  • Jazz 2013-01-11 15:11
    SirMarksalot:
    Having worked with Live ID, I'm not at all surprised to see a bug like this. Live is responsible for drawing its own sign-in/sign-out controls, but at the same time won't give you a straight answer as to whether the user is signed in or not. You have to have your own logic to determine the user's signed-in state, and then you tell Live to give you the "sign in" link. Except that the "sign in" link is a "sign out" link if there's a user logged in.

    So your internal logic tells you that the user is signed out (maybe because they don't have an entry in your service) so you display your "sign in" message, but Live knows there's a user signed in, so it displays a "sign out" link, and you end up with the situation here. Usually I see it the other way around, though ("You are signed in as Get Your Gamercard").


    So why not simply request the sign-in link, then inspect it to determine whether a sign-in or sign-out link was returned, and use that to determine once-and-for-all whether someone is signed-in to Live?

    In other words -- if there are methods that return nondeterministic values, and there are methods that return deterministic values, maybe we should use the latter to work around the former.
  • jay 2013-01-11 15:51
    LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet:
    Josh:
    The Mint one isn't a bug. It means the account connected to that goal lost that amount of money, either through investment losses or taking money out of it.


    Yes, but he's still 'on track' for meeting his goal. But I guess whether or not that's a WTF depends on how the regular payments have been keeping up and how much time is left to catch up again.


    You could lose or withdraw money one month and still be on goal. Like, if my goal is to save $100 per month, and the first two months I save $200 each month and then the third month I withdraw $50, my net savings for three months is $350 versus goal of $300. So I'm still ahead.

    That said, saying you lost or withdraw over $2,000 out of $1600, well, does that mean you now have a balance of -400? Even if negative balances are possible on whatever kind of account this is, it's hard to see how you're still on goal. (Unless you work for the Obama administration and your goal is to lose money. :-) Or maybe they mean that after losting $2,000 you have $1,600 left?

    In any case, saying you gained -2000 is an awfully poor way of describing it. Can't they write code that says "if change>0 print 'gained'+change else print 'lost'+(-change)"? That doesn't seem that tough and it would be a lot more clear to the user.
  • jay 2013-01-11 15:58
    Anon:

    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked?


    That's right! It's all Jimmy Carter's fault! You can't blame Bush for not fixing all the problems created by Jimmy Carter.
  • jay 2013-01-11 16:07
    Anon:
    Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.


    Two sides are negotiating. Both sides are convinced that their position is the best idea. Side D isn't willing to budge an inch. Side R is only willing to budge a fraction of an inch. By what standard do you say that the deadlock is all the fault of side R?

  • Paul Neumann 2013-01-11 16:43
    Mr Minitel:
    Tandy is dandy, but Commodore j'adore
    F***ing french bastard!
  • Paul Neumann 2013-01-11 16:45
    Anon:
    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked? Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.

    Want some cheese with your whine?
    The congress will not be holding any guns until they are illegal for the rest of the country.
  • Elron the Fantastic 2013-01-11 17:35
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Anon:
    Ken:
    Rick:
    there were a lot of companies that thought "a computer has wires, we sell stuff with wires, so we're golden!"
    Kinda like when a mediocre law professor thinks "I helped organize a community of political activists in corrupt Chicago, so I can probably organize the world's economy"?

    Still sore huh?
    Economy still sucks, so, yeah.


    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked? Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.

    Want some cheese with your whine?


    2 Wrongs don't make a right.
  • Norman D. Landing 2013-01-11 17:35
    Geoff:

    And that's in no way the option presents itself. Now the GOP has the debt ceiling so its the DNCs turn to bleed.

    This is the way our politics works now get over it and get used to it.



    But is it HOW it should work?

    Slate magazine has an excellent article on this... Link debt with spending when the spending bill is introduced. Congress wants to spend 1.2 trillian dollars on faucet handles? Automatically add 1.2 trillian to the debt ceiling. Badda bing!

    Now, what was that about Irish Girl??
  • tweek 2013-01-11 19:29
    gah. why would anyone go to radio shack when there are Fry's around? Unless they've changed since I moved away, and have gotten away from having the 3-4 aisles of what i'd consider 'radio-shack-stuff' (capacitors, wire, soldering irons, etc.)

    The rule my friends and I had was to not ask for help at Fry's on principle because, well, at the time if you could spell computer you could find a real job, or fool a VC into giving you millions of dollars for an idea with no implementation.

  • drummerp 2013-01-11 21:19
    I can certainly agree with that. At my work we use JRebel with Eclipse, and until I was able to get a JRebel licence when I first signed up, hotswapping with Eclipse was a horrible pain. I found it easier and faster to restart the server without even bothering to try hotswapping whenever I changed my code. Then I got a JRebel licence from work and hooked that up to run whenever I updated code in Eclipse, and that made things so much easier and faster. It works like a charm, really.
  • Bill C. 2013-01-12 03:33
    jay:
    Anon:
    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked?
    That's right! It's all Jimmy Carter's fault! You can't blame Bush for not fixing all the problems created by Jimmy Carter.
    What a relief, everyone's forgotten about me.

    Now what was that about Irish Girl?
  • Mark 2013-01-12 17:09
    Vincent's find on Microsoft's site merely demonstrates the company's consistency. After all, we have to click on the "Start" menu to stop the OS, don't we?
  • Captcha:suscipere 2013-01-13 10:58
    Mark:
    Vincent's find on Microsoft's site merely demonstrates the company's consistency. After all, we have to click on the "Start" menu to stop the OS, don't we?

    Hmm, looks like we have a secodn first comment here.
  • Medinoc 2013-01-14 04:51
    Rick:
    The software... well... subroutines could only have names up to 6 characters long, and company policy required the magic letters "GE" at the beginning of everything just so you wouldn't forget their greatness, so you'd be writing code where GELOAD calls GEFIND then GEOPEN and if there was any error you call GEBORT (abort) to get yourself a handy dandy core dump.

    Sounds like Duke Nukem 3D cheat codes...
  • D'oh 2013-01-14 09:06
    Captcha:suscipere:
    Mark:
    Vincent's find on Microsoft's site merely demonstrates the company's consistency. After all, we have to click on the "Start" menu to stop the OS, don't we?

    Hmm, looks like we have a secodn first comment here.
    Everyone knows the comments on page 2 are mostly the same as those on page 1 because nobody can be bothered to read a folded away page before posting, so it's great for consistency when the frist comment on page 2 is also the same as the frist on page 1.
  • Valued Service 2013-01-14 12:42
    Gramie:
    Have you forgotten who came before the current president? His own party seems to have.


    Because 8 years after a president's 2 terms isn't enough ample time to make stop an accelerating deficit.

    What would tax brackets have to be at the current rate of spending? Oh, I say start at 80% and end at 100.

    I mean, that dang Teddy Roosevelt, it's his dang fault. I mean, if he hadn't messed up way back then. Just look at how investments work, invest in Yahoo! years ago, be rich today. Imagine the wealth we'd have if he hadn't messed up so bad. We wouldn't even ever hear of recessions.
  • Valued Service 2013-01-14 12:50
    Geoff:
    Ken:

    And that's in no way the responsibility of the guy in power when the economy tanked? Or of the people in congress who would rather hold a gun to the head of the economy than negotiate in good faith.


    Head you said negotiate I would have let you off but there is not any "good faith" on the other side at all. The President nor the democratic caucus has any intention of doing any sort of entitlement reform, and neither side has any real interest in addressing defense spending.

    The GOP says they won't do any revenue but they just passed legislation that actually does quite a bit of it; because they were forced, to save the sacred cow that is the DOD.

    Both sides are entirely recalcitrant so I don't fault either for resorting to extortion when the option presents itself. Now the GOP has the debt ceiling so its the DNCs turn to bleed.

    This is the way our politics works now get over it and get used to it.



    I wish you anti DoD guys would have the balls to tell the Marines, Seals, and Army that they make too much, and that half of them need to be let go.

    I mean, what's going to happen to the cost if we do bring every soldier back home. What would you do, pay them less?

    I suppose we'd have less upkeep on the foreign bases, but we aren't pulling out of 90% of the places we are in, like with our allies, or in places where violence is so bad that if we pulled out there'd be a big black hole near our allies. Pulling out of two countries won't drastically reduce the budget.

    I suppose we could hit at the runaway cost of technology, but that's our jobs, so we'd be shutting ourselves down.

    I suppose we could spend less on planes, but drones are expensive too, and the TSA needs them to monitor suburbia.

    Maybe we could sell our rusted battleships to North Korea like Russia did. I mean, we're already in the business of giving away weapons to drug lords; psychopathic tyrants should be next in line right?
  • Slapout 2013-01-14 13:53
    tweek:
    gah. why would anyone go to radio shack when there are Fry's around? Unless they've changed since I moved away, and have gotten away from having the 3-4 aisles of what i'd consider 'radio-shack-stuff' (capacitors, wire, soldering irons, etc.)




    Because Fry's has around 35 locations while Radio Shack has around 5000.
  • Slapout 2013-01-14 13:55
    As someone who used to work there, I can tell you that Radio Shack overestimates EVERYTHING.
  • jay 2013-01-14 17:32
    Slapout:
    tweek:
    gah. why would anyone go to radio shack when there are Fry's around? Unless they've changed since I moved away, and have gotten away from having the 3-4 aisles of what i'd consider 'radio-shack-stuff' (capacitors, wire, soldering irons, etc.)




    Because Fry's has around 35 locations while Radio Shack has around 5000.


    I live in Michigan. And when I want to buy a couple of resistors and a soldering iron, it just makes sense to fly to California so I can visit a Fry's rather than driving half a mile to Radio Shack.
  • jay 2013-01-14 18:05
    Valued Service:
    I wish you anti DoD guys would have the balls to tell the Marines, Seals, and Army that they make too much, and that half of them need to be let go.

    I mean, what's going to happen to the cost if we do bring every soldier back home. What would you do, pay them less?

    I suppose we'd have less upkeep on the foreign bases, but we aren't pulling out of 90% of the places we are in, like with our allies, or in places where violence is so bad that if we pulled out there'd be a big black hole near our allies. Pulling out of two countries won't drastically reduce the budget.

    I suppose we could hit at the runaway cost of technology, but that's our jobs, so we'd be shutting ourselves down.

    I suppose we could spend less on planes, but drones are expensive too, and the TSA needs them to monitor suburbia.

    Maybe we could sell our rusted battleships to North Korea like Russia did. I mean, we're already in the business of giving away weapons to drug lords; psychopathic tyrants should be next in line right?


    Well, in fairness, I'd think we could shut down most of the bases in Europe. Thoses bases were established when we wanted to defend Europe against an attack from the Soviet Union. Now there is no Soviet Union any more, but we're still spending billions of dollars defending against them. And some of that money is rent we pay to the Europeans for the land that our bases occupy. That is, we are paying the Europeans for the privilege of defending them from an enemy who no longer exists.
  • Chris 2013-02-14 12:50
    I can confirm that JRebel works with Weblogic. That's exactly the setup we have at work. It really makes life a lot easier.
  • Darkhog 2013-03-28 22:23
    You still are using WinXP??? In 2013???

    LAAAAAAME.

    Also, please say hello to my friends Sasser and Blaster. You probably has pretty good NetBus there, so I won't have any troubles with talking with thhem over telnet, though.